Green Heaven

I saw today where a friend had posted this video. While I do value the contribution the artist has made to society both in terms of a piece of artwork and as a statement to bring people to a greater awareness of the world in which we live, I'm not entirely sure it's something I can get behind as a viable transportation alternative. Of course there are unsustainable costs to our continuing to live in a car-centric culture, but likewise are there costs to living in a horse-centric culture. Simply our infrastructure from one to the other is not necessarily a good and green idea. I don't know what all of those costs are, mind you, but the post and the discussion it sparked have now got me interested. I thought I'd try and do a little research and comparison.

Upfront the base MSRP of a 2008 H2 is around $53K. I'm not at all sure what a decent horse would run (looking into it); whatever it is would not accurately reflect what the cost would be if everyone ditched their cars and started riding them. With such a rise in demand the price would go up as well. In addition to what it costs at the outset, there is the cost based on mileage - which, for cars, is not limited to the price of gas x miles per gallon. Maintenance and depreciation figure into the equation as well, and these "hidden costs" raise the dollar figure significantly, though offhand I don't know by how much. I remember someone did... a study... or something, that took everything into account. Have to see if I can find that again. I have no idea what the cost per mile for a horse would be, either, but that's also something I'm looking into.

As far as environmental impact is concerned, according to one study driving cars results in emissions of about 2 to 5 tons of CO₂ each year, depending on vehicle model and fuel efficiency¹. My assumption is that horses are more efficient than cars, but by how much remains to be seen. I know that with livestock production there are more hidden costs associated with things like land and resources required to grow feed, but not being a horse person I don't know how those would apply. Also, waste would be an issue. As far as the "poop-poop-a-do" is concerned, at least it's biodegradable and could maybe even be used as fertilizer. (Except... how much poop can a horse poop? How many people are there who drive cars, and how high would that pile of poop reach when it's all added up? Would it be less or more than we actually need? Cause if it's more, then it kinda defeats the purpose and becomes more of a waste than a resource.) Although horses would not be putting out CO₂, they and/or their waste would, I think, release other not-so-nice like methane and nitrous oxide. I hear tell those are even worse in way of their greenhouse effect than carbon dioxide. Fifty times worse, in the case of methane. Which brings up the question: do manatees emit methane? Cause if they do, manatee farts are destroying the planet. Kill the manatees, save the Earth!

In the midst of this research, I found a few fun facts:
~Apparently there is a tax break that applies to purchasing giant gas-guzzling behemoths. It wasn't originally meant to favor large vehicles over smaller and more efficient models, but with the letter of the law that's how it works out these days. Ew.
~It's more environmentally friendly to live meat-free than it is to live car-free. While looking for research on what would happen if the world rode horses I came across an interesting article on being a Prius-driving vegan vs. a meat-eating cyclist. It's not a very large difference, only about half a ton of carbon dioxide in favor of vegans, but still it's a surprising and not exactly pleasant thing to learn. I LIKE meat. But it would seem the best of us would be a vegan cyclist... though I don't know that I'm ready to take that step just yet. Another thing to keep in mind.

1. Am I going to have to start citing sources for blog posts? This is not something I had ever contemplated... In this instance the study in question is by , and is based on driving about 8,300 miles annually. I haven't actually read the study itself; the numbers I give were pulled from an article I found on it.

Red Hot Chili Peppers - Green Heaven

New Music Monday: Naked in the rain

Erykah Badu's latest album releases tomorrow. If the rest of it sounds as good as the track, I'll be quite happy to listen to it. Sister is still the Queen. While the video for the song is quite striking, before you check it out I suggest you set it up by watching the one that inspired it.





From Erykah, "[S]hot guerilla style, no crew, one take, no closed set, no warning, two minutes, in downtown Dallas, then ran like hell... I was afraid. But I was ready."

And from Questlove, "People were so stunned they forgot to break out camera phones."

The correct answer is TIME MACHINE

I sure do wish I had bit more wiggle room in my schedule this weekend.

Thing 1 that I'd like to check out is City Sound Tracks, this music festival event type jobber being hosted by... Trailnet? Metro? Alls I knows is, BANDS are playing, soma which I LIKE, half of it is in my NEIGHBORHOOD, and I'm BUSY for most of the day. Drat. Maybe I'll wander over and check it out, thought, since I could literally (okay, practically) fall out of bed and land in front of one of the stages. Who knows, might find something good.

Thing A is People's Settlement: Stand Up! Stand Together!, this ongoing protest dealy happening downtown. From what I can tell the event is kind of anti-everything. By which I mean there are a selection of groups involved speaking out on a wide variety of issues, so anyone with any sort of interest in political action and change can most likely find something they agree with. I sure hope they're not actually anti-everything, cause that gets real old pretty quick. Still, nice to see folks being passionate about something. Don't get enough of that these days.

The Juan Maclean - No Time

New Music Monday: Arms are too short to box with God

Turns out there's a terrible flip side to things when music is your religion. Sure, it's nice perpetually having a fat beat rocking on the soundtrack of life. And I certainly get a kick out of having music for everything. But sometimes - and I hate even to admit this - there can be too much. This the reason for my near tardiness this week, and very nearly pushing things off as a matter of fact. It's not because I haven't been listening to music, or that I haven't found anything new. On the contrary: it was cause I've been listening to so much stuff, both new and old, that I felt like my aural palette had become over-stimulated. I liken it to drinking too many different kinds of wine all at once. It's difficult to properly sort out what is "good" from what is simply "new", feelings get jumbled from song to song and artist to artist... Try to digest to much, and your brain explodes.

Luckily at the very end I did manage to settle down and find something to nod my head to. I recently happened across an interesting article about the DORF Matrix, a bit of reflection and theory on how skewed the music habits of NPR's listeners are, in particular when it comes to black music. (Woah! It's gettin all racial up in this piece! Except, don't worry, cause it's really not. ~M) The gist of the argument is, 1. black artists are underrepresented, and 2. the black folks that are represented weirdly come from music that regular black people don't actually listen to. According to this article, the NPR crowd - which is predominately white and college-educated - mostly listens to music which falls into the DORF categories, those being artists who are Dead, Old, Retro or Foreign. I have to say that I don't know enough about NPR or its listeners to speak on this with any authority, but I find this to be utterly fascinating. I feel like this should be posted on Stuff White People Like, for one. But also, in all seriousness, having had some experiences in my day hanging out with a largely white and college-educated crowd, I've seen some things that lead me to believe this theory may have merit. And, loosing track of seriousness again, there was mention of making a DORF drinking game which I think would be hilarious.

Anyway, this articles cites a whole pile of examples to back up its assertions in black musicians that have gotten airplay and recognition on NPR. I didn't come close to looking at all of them, but I did happen to click on one link that made a reference to retro hip-hop. I do loves the old-school stuff, after all, and I've got to keep my ears open for the good stuff that stays true to its roots. Can't be having that mainstream garbage made by sellouts and fools in my house. The link in question led me to a song by the Brown Bag AllStars outta New York, and left me wanting more. A little investigation into these record store employees by day, emcees by night led me to their blog and a few more songs that they've posted there. One of those I find incredibly striking, in that it is easily one of the most beautiful hip-hop songs I've heard in ages. In fact, I can almost remember the last time and place when I heard something so moving. Five or six years ago now I heard a track by a group called Pitch Black, and it knocked me out. I loved the use of strings in a hip-hop song, and to me the sound of the melody is just killer. I've only just realized that this song by BBAS is the first thing I've heard of that caliber in the last five years. I ran out and bought the Pitch Black album based on just that one song - kind of out of character for me - and then proceeded to be a little let down by the rest of their offering. It had its moments, but nothing else that rocked me so hard as that. In fact, I had to pull out Pitch Black and BBAS and listen to them back and forth and side-by-side, over and over, and it's quite eerie how alike they are. Definitely going to try and start some dialogue about this. But that is where the similarity to BBAS ends. I've been listening to a few more tracks by them, did that listening to too much music thing, gave em a break for a minute, came back for more, and find that the quality is steady throughout. Everything I've heard by them is just as awesome as that first song.

Pitch Black - It's All Real
Brown Bag AllStars - Brooklyn Queens Expressway

And for those of you interested, the article and the follow-up piece.

In the daylight anywhere feels like home

Hooray! Daylight Savings! I'd long planned to make a mix or maybe suggest it become a national holiday to commemorate the occasion, cause I do indeed love my outdoor time. Completely stoked for having the extra hours for more riding and frisbee-shaped-object-related activities. Only that whole wiping the music library thing means it's much harder finding proper songs than it used to be. And there are SO MANY hoops to jump through for instituting national holidays. Geez. So I wasn't sure it was gonna happen. But maybe, just maybe I can pull something off. Gotta find something to keep myself occupied. Am I actually celebrating having daylight by doing stuff outside? NO. Cause it's cloudy and dreary and RAINING. I mean, I'd only been planning on that play time since the beginning of Winter, Mother Nature, it's no big. Ho hum.

Who Loves the Sun? mix:
Matt & Kim - Daylight
Beck - Sunday Sun
Harlem Shakes - Sunlight
Deerhoof - Sunnyside
Ohmega Watts - Groovin' On Sunshine

There is such a thing as Cuddle Rabies?!? OH NOES.
I have to go.
...to the doctor.
...cuz I'm prolly infected.

Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings - I Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Is In)

Things just got to get better

Google Maps now has biking directions! It remains to be seen precisely how useful they will be... a preliminary test looks like it calculates time based on a slower rider than I, and reading a little about how it works it seems it will take into account and try to avoid big hills (which don't really bother me all that much). Still, it's interesting, and about time. Can't wait for a stretch of decent weather so I can test it out a bit further. Ahwoooo!

Further reading: It's time to bike, and biking directions added to google maps.

Space tourist

Janelle Monáe is steppin out. The closest she comes to the Lou is is Chicago. How come they get two shows? Lucky sons a guns... Sure wish I could make a run up there to see her do her thing. I didn't get this before from listening to her, but watching this video I suddenly feel like I'm looking at something put out by Outkast. And I like it. Girl's got moves. Crazy moves. That reverse Moonwalk thing? Yes.



03.15.2010,The Black Cat,Washington DC

03.17.2010, Johnny Brenda's, Philadelphia, PA

03.18.2010, Johnny Brenda's, Philadelphia, PA

03.21.2010, Cafe Du Nord, San Francisco, CA

03.22.2010, Cafe Du Nord, San Francisco, CA

03.23.2010, Viper Room, West Hollywood, CA

03.24.2010, Viper Room, West Hollywood, CA

03.29.2010, Schuba's Tavern, Chicago,IL

03.30.2010, Schuba's Tavern, Chicago, IL
03.31.2010, Varsity Theater, Minneapolis, MN

04.02.2010, St. Andrew's Hall, Detroit, MI

04.05.2010, Smith, Atlanta, GA

04.06.2010, Smith, Atlanta, GA

04.09.2010, Joe's Pub, NY, NY

04.10.2010, Joe's Pub, NY, NY

New Music Monday: It's the rhythm you've been waiting for

Continuing the theme from last week, today's New Music Monday is on a girl with a funky 'do. I've been diggin' on Noisettes quite a bit these last days, and I'd love to tell you all about them. Only I have no idea where to begin. Is it soul? Rock and roll? Indie rock? Experimental? There's just so much going on, and each of the songs bounces between genres, sounding so distinct from the last that my brain is having trouble keeping up. It's just too much for me to wrap my head around. I like it, though. I don't care what it is, I just want more.

Noisettes - Don't Upset the Rhythm (Go Baby Go)

The Karate Kid.
Classic 80s cinema at its finest, right?
Except now it's being remade.
At best I would have mixed feelings about doing such a thing with a movie from my childhood.
(Well... okay, I just being born the year it came out.
But still, I saw it when I was a kid.
And it was new to me, so...)
But this... this is being remade with Jackie Chan.
And set in China.
And I'm all for Jackie Chan / movies set in China.
Only neither of them have much of anything to do with karate.
So I'm kind of bothered and upset by this right now.
Damn you Hollywood.

Oh, and that Tenacious D song "Karate"?
Also terribly inaccurate.
"With karate I'll kick your ass"?
Okay, I can see that.
"Here to Tiananmen Square"?
Um, no.

New Music Monday: Here come the future girls

Hello, is this Deltron 3030? I think I've just found your soul mate. Her name is Janelle Monáe, and she's got an interesting thing going. Of course if you're not interested I could maybe call Gnarls Barkley, but I figure the two of you have more in common. I bet one day you could make beautiful robot babies.

I'm not sure I'd agree with Sean "P Did-all Puff Diddy" Combs when he says she's one of the most important signings of his career... I mean, she's certainly got something, no lie. I've also got to give the girl points each for daring, creativity and theme. But the eclectic futuristic thing has been done before, ya know? And while it was a cool concept, it didn't change the world. In any case, she released an EP a few years back called Metropolis Suite I of IV: The Chase. Her first full-length The ArchAndroid - which will cover the second and third parts of the story arc - is scheduled to come out in May. The dance party rocker and nerd comic fanboy in me are having fights about which is more excited. Furthermore although she can stand on her own, how much better will this be featuring guest spots by Saul Williams (!) and Big Boi? The future, ftw.

Deltron 3030 - 3030
Janelle Monáe - Violet Stars Happy Hunting

Alright, it's gig time, what t-shirt am I gonna wear?

This weekend I stepped out to the Firebird for what turned out to be a perfectly awesome rock show.

We Landed on the Moon!: The flexibility and energy of this band is amazing. It is of course always great to hear someone playing some good music, which they surely did, but what really got me is how much fun they have doin' their thing. It's infectious. But not like "oh noes! I am disease-ridden!" More in a good way. Like, there has been an outbreak of rock n roll. People everywhere are coming down with it. Symptoms include smiles and wild dancing. Pleased be advised there is no cure; the only available option is to let the disease run its course, so if you find you are suffering the effects of this illness please report to the front of the stage for treatment.

Blind Eyes: What can I say about them? Local band, three white guys in standard arrangement. I was not wowed. I'm not knocking the idea of three white guys in a local band, mind you. I can think of at least one such group that has always impressed. But them... I believe I heard someone refer to them as "Bland Eyes", and that pretty well sums it up. My attention was not grabbed by the complexity or energy of the music, or by the depth of the lyrics. I did think they had a slightly interesting sound with their use of a blues guitar in a rock band, but it wasn't strong enough to stand out and make up for the band's overall shortcomings.

Elsinore: And speaking of complexity... I don't have any of their records, but I've now seen Elsinore a good three or four times. They're not local, but they come through St. Louis somewhat regular. It's only at this last show that I'm beginning to understand how much they've got going on in some of their songs. Somehow they managed to blend a beat that kicks with something as beautiful and sweet as a sea breeze. It's only because of their lead singer, I feel, that they are able to pull this off. The rest of the band is fairly adept as well, but it's he who really brings it all home. I was of two minds, torn between wanting to dance around and just bask in the music; ultimately I settled for dividing myself in two and using each half of my body to do both at the same time. The stage presence wasn't quite as strong as I've seen it be in the past - the last time they came through the lead singer was cracking jokes and bantering back and forth with the crowd - but I'm more than willing to forgive that as they were on day 28 of 28 of their tour.

But wait, there's more! Have some video goodness...





When I die, I sure hope I don't have pie all over my face...

Never had it so good

Wish my commute was that easy. The next bicycle I buy will have the power of flight.

In other stuff on the interweb developments, huzzah for the Pitchfork RSS feed. I am all caught up on music news (which goes along with my general theme of being more aware of news in general) and it's good times. Plenty of stuff that I won't post on the blog but will be shared on that Buzz thing...

I'd been having some virus drama for a while that was a perpetual annoyance as none of the programs I could find were able to get rid of it. Finally today I got around to trying a factory restore. I'd been reluctant to do something so drastic, but enough was enough. Sick to death of corrupted programs and crashes, and with this shiny huge new hard drive backing up my data seemed to be less of a problem. Boy am I glad I did. I didn't lose anything important, and I even downloaded the latest versions of the programs I use most. Included in that list was The GodFather, which is an awesome but cumbersome way to alter tags and file names of mp3s. With the amount of music I have dumped into random folders and the obsessive methods I have when it comes to organization it's definitely a must have. While I was looking around I came across Tag&Rename and decided to check it out since it had better reviews. Turns out this works way better. So much more powerful and intuitive. Should be much easier to make headway on the Great Reorganization now. How friggin sweet. Thanks you, cnet. I also played around with personas finally, so Firefox is now all infused with music. The only downside is I forget which theme it was I'd been using for Firefox, I seem to have lost the ability to add IMDB and Meriam-Webster to my toolbar search engines, and my FoxyTunes controls are a little wonky. Gotta see if I can work it out.

It feels like I'm watching something dyin'

What is "indie"?

A sound? A philosophy? A label affiliation?

An important question for one who is particular about the labeling of genres and ideas. By the dictionary's definition of the term (here being "independent") - along with a bit of contextual assumption - I imagine its meaning to be something produced and distributed without connection to the mainstream establishment. As a person living an eclectic and slightly Bohemian lifestyle, this is a definition I find terribly appealing. Not that mainstream is inherently bad, mind you, but I feel at times it can be somewhat unwieldy, sometimes archaic and possessing of values that don't align with my own. Arguably this definition of indie could be applied to just about anything, which threatens to make even indie itself begin to become unwieldy, but for simplicity's sake I'll restrict my thoughts here to music. (Though I must admit a deep interest and admiration for indie news - even if it does at times lean a little to the left, I have to respect its telling of the many things that would otherwise not be reported.) Thinking just of independent music quickly runs into a large problem, in that so little of what is being produced today remains truly independent of the mainstream labels. Additionally, the depth of knowledge and history required to define what is and is not indie is simply out of the grasp of the majority of the population. I confess that I can be more than a little obsessive when it comes to the definitions and organization of my music library, but even I have never gone so far as to look up and define the status of individual labels, nor do I have any interest in doing so. Because of this it is my opinion that this once meaningful term has now become corrupted. Which makes me sad. I think of myself as traditionalist and appreciative of the old-fashioned, and I don't like how so many of the old ways and aspects of cultural have fallen by the wayside.

Another way to look at it is in terms of a sound or a genre, but there are issues with this outlook as well. "Indie" is commonly used as a definition specifically for rock music, but what about hip-hop? There's a strong movement in hip-hop for artists and the general style of art that remains independent, perhaps better known as underground. There are some deep-running feelings about it. Just look at how much controversy got stirred up when Nas came out with "Hip-hop Is Dead." He sure got people all riled with that one. I'm sure there are ways the term could be applied to many other genres as well. To be thorough and safe I typically classify my music as "indie rock" and leave it at that, but... if I think about it too much it leaves me with an unsettling feeling in the pit of my stomach that, at best, this is not specific enough. At worst, I worry that it means nothing at all. Certainly there is enough breadth that it's difficult to justify fitting all these wildly different-sounding artists under a single umbrella. I can't say I'm very happy at the thought of yanking the rug out from under what forms such a significant percentage of what I listen to, though.

Ultimately, what I'll likely have to do is largely leave things as they are and not think too hard about this. Flawed as it is, were it to be taken away I don't know that there's something better to replace it. If this requires wearing blinders, or even screwing my eyes tightly shut and hiding under the bed, so be it. (I will not be sticking my fingers in my ears, it should be noted, cause then I wouldn't be able to hear the music.) As long as I don't read many more disturbing articles like the one that prompted this rant I figure I should be safe and able to sleep at night. The alternative is just too unpleasant to consider.

Paste Magazine - Is Indie Dead?

By the by, though so far I've only been reading this one article (which is fabulously well-written), I think I might be in love with this magazine. I'm considering grabbing a subscription, I'm so impressed by my first look. We'll see how good the rest is as I read further.

Beck - Already Dead

My heart explodes into a thousand downloads

Today's edition of Stuff on the Interwebs is brought to you by the letter J. Once again no New Music Monday as the Great Reorganization continues. In a quick search for an appropriately fitting bit of music I did however stumble across this little thing that I can't recall having heard before. But first! Cool art, made out of interesting stuff no less.


For a long time, one of my uncles has had these rhinoceroses that he's kept around the house. Ever since I was a kid I recall looking at them and thinking they were kind of neat, but there was always this small voice in my brain that wondered why he had them. Finally not too long ago the subject came up and I asked him what the deal was. Apparently he likes them. They're tough, and not to be trifled with, they've got thick skin and they get along just fine doin' their own thing. Maybe you have to be there, or maybe you have to know him, but I find this perfectly hilarious. I think he wants to be a rhinoceros when he grows up.


Prolyphic & Reanimator - Artist Goes Pop

15 amazing used tire sculptures

They call me quiet, but I'm a riot

o.O? The band formerly known as "The Gossip" apparently has changed their name to "Gossip". ...the part of me that likes things to be organized doesn't know how to handle that. Should I find all the locations where the old name occurs and change them to the new? Should I be steadfast and stick with the original? Or should I change the info only for music they've released from the point in time at which the new name was used?

Arrgh. Can't decide... can't decide, brain aneurysm!

No New Music Monday this week. Still in the midst of reorganizing an entire library of music, rebuilding playlists I've destroyed, etc, and it's a beast. Roughly 4.3 gigs filed and in place, 58.5+ left to go. Gonna be at this a little while. Maybe this'll tide you over for a spell.
Gossip - Heavy Cross (RAC remix)

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Now playing: The Ting Tings - That's Not My Name (LA Riots remix)
via FoxyTunes

I'm not much of one for the technology that the kids seem to go crazy over. These days it's all about the iPhones and gPhones and xPhones and zPhones, BlackBerrys and CrackBerries, the PS3s and Wiis, the texting and tweeting and twixting. Me, I prefer to do things the old fashioned way. There have been some new shiny things happening lately that are worth a little attention. Without further ado, and in ascending order of cool/useful/geekness...

#3. WolframAlpha: This could be the search engine to end all search engines. I'm not sure how handy this will be for me - I've got a feeling it could have way more information that I would ever actually need. But if I ever need to quickly slap someone with facts, this would be the place to go. With a quick test query of "Silver Spring" (for those keeping score at home, that's where I was born) this thing figured out I meant the city in Maryland. The data that shows up - on the results page, mind you - includes population, location, elevation, weather... it's completely nerdy that I'm excited by this, I know, but I am okay with that.

#2. Google Buzz: It's all anyone can talk about today. Honestly I've got mixed feelings about it, and I can see how it might get a little annoying... so far the incessant updates about posts and people I don't care about but am somehow automatically subscribed to does not thrill me. But it may prove useful. I have a Gmail window open on my browser at all times anyway, so... Let's see if this will keep me as informed of goings-on as Facebook without all the useless chatter (so, so bored with that).


#1. Cooliris: Ooooh, look at the pretty. Browsing pictures and videos has never, ever been this slick.

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Now playing: Midnight Juggernauts - This New Technology
via FoxyTunes

New Music Monday: Talkin' all that jazz

Unintentionally - for I am not supposed to be letting myself get sidetracked by new music right now, and I promised myself I'd take a little break - I find myself with some fresh finds. Here I thought I was going to do this bi-weekly and use the word "fortnight" more often. Oh well. This week, we're gonna kick it with some new oldies.

Sarah Vaughan: In the midst of a recent Amy Winehouse kick I happen to take a look at some of the similar artists listed on her last.fm page. Randomly (or subconsciously?) I clicked over to see what Sarah Vaughan is about. (Amy does count her as an influence, after all, and drops her name in at least one of her songs.) I usually have to be in just the right mood to appreciate such mellow stuff, but her voice is so soulful and sexy that I couldn't help but fall for her.

Sarah Vaughan - In a Sentimental Mood

Marva Whitney: As mentioned in my recent post about the Ghetto Funk Power Hour there was one artist on that first listen who really grabbed hold. Mr. Griptite closed out the hour with Marva Whitney. What could have been chalked up to the excitement of the moment was proven to be more that. A quick search and listen on Hype Machine showed me that she is a standout. She may not be well-known among those of the interweb generation, but DAMN sister's got soul. And she shows that she can throw down the jazz flavor as well. I'm sold.

Marva Whitney - Sunny (with James Brown)

Either of these ladies would be worth investing in a time machine so I could go back and see them at the height of their glory. Unless of course anyone has a spare laying around that I could borrow for such a purpose. I promise I'll bring it back nice and shiny.

When disaster strikes...

It's a tough time when a dear loved one is near death. For me right now, that someone is my hard drive, and I would appreciate any and all support during this difficult time. So full of music, and pictures, and life. I am less than thrilled (see: full on panicked) at the thought of loosing the entirety of my music library, plus all the amusing pictures I've saved over the years (cause when the apocalypse comes, we'll be judged on the number of funny pictures we have accumulated). Luckily I'd managed to get it working again and save most of the super critical stuff, and it's shiny new replacement arrived today. Now begins the monumental task of reorganizing the whole she-bang. The good news is I found some old but decent speakers I haven't used in years and got them set up, so when I listen to tunes while I work I'll have a little wattage behind them instead of puny laptop speakers. Oh-rah.